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maandag 10 maart 2014 om 21:26
dinsdag 11 maart 2014 om 21:56
quote:Scamp schreef op 11 maart 2014 @ 21:41:
Hans, I think a lot of words in the English language descended from Dutch, because it's an older language.
Also Scandinavian words. The area where I live has been Viking.
Isn't it all so very interesting?No wonder... English, Dutch and the Scandinavian languages (Danish, Norwegian, Swedish) are Germanic languages. Old English looked more like Dutch, than Middle and Modern English does. The French gave English a Romance trait. I consider English Germanic but also Romance.
Hans, I think a lot of words in the English language descended from Dutch, because it's an older language.
Also Scandinavian words. The area where I live has been Viking.
Isn't it all so very interesting?No wonder... English, Dutch and the Scandinavian languages (Danish, Norwegian, Swedish) are Germanic languages. Old English looked more like Dutch, than Middle and Modern English does. The French gave English a Romance trait. I consider English Germanic but also Romance.
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dinsdag 11 maart 2014 om 21:58
I ate amazing steak this evening. It is very happily sitting in my belly now. The only problem I have is that I should get up and brush my teeth. I don't want to.
Also, Jellywobble, the last part of your 21.48 post should probably be "perhaps in Yorkshire they say it like this all the time". The way you phrased it is not strictly speaking wrong but a native speaker would never use that word order.
Also, Jellywobble, the last part of your 21.48 post should probably be "perhaps in Yorkshire they say it like this all the time". The way you phrased it is not strictly speaking wrong but a native speaker would never use that word order.
dinsdag 11 maart 2014 om 22:01
quote:UCchick1990 schreef op 11 maart 2014 @ 21:49:
Jellywobble, I just checked with my native speaking Oxford educated boyfriend and I am almost off to work is perfectly fine. Why not join the fun and chat rather than just correct?
ha ha, perhaps but its tempting to correct.
Anyway, my daughter who is at Durham Uni accepts the phrasing is grammatically correct, but not commonly used. I am a Dutch native who has lived in the UK for over 20 years.
Jellywobble, I just checked with my native speaking Oxford educated boyfriend and I am almost off to work is perfectly fine. Why not join the fun and chat rather than just correct?
ha ha, perhaps but its tempting to correct.
Anyway, my daughter who is at Durham Uni accepts the phrasing is grammatically correct, but not commonly used. I am a Dutch native who has lived in the UK for over 20 years.
dinsdag 11 maart 2014 om 22:05
quote:UCchick1990 schreef op 11 maart 2014 @ 21:58:
I ate amazing steak this evening. It is very happily sitting in my belly now. The only problem I have is that I should get up and brush my teeth. I don't want to.
Also, Jellywobble, the last part of your 21.48 post should probably be "perhaps in Yorkshire they say it like this all the time". The way you phrased it is not strictly speaking wrong but a native speaker would never use that word order.good point, thank you!
I ate amazing steak this evening. It is very happily sitting in my belly now. The only problem I have is that I should get up and brush my teeth. I don't want to.
Also, Jellywobble, the last part of your 21.48 post should probably be "perhaps in Yorkshire they say it like this all the time". The way you phrased it is not strictly speaking wrong but a native speaker would never use that word order.good point, thank you!
dinsdag 11 maart 2014 om 22:20
quote:grumpycat1983 schreef op 11 maart 2014 @ 14:01:
What an awesome topic! For some reason my English is considered good enough to get mistaken for a native speaker. In written word I still make a lot of mistakes but thats more grammarwise, and loads of native speakers seem to have difficulties with that as well. But when I speak they hardly hear I am from The Netherlands. (I don't speak Dinglish ghehe). The only funny thing is that somehow I have diffrent sorts of accents wich makes it sound like I moved around a lot. (northern Irish mixed with Scottish and a touch of Cornish).
Now a new challenge faces me, I have to learn American. My boyfriends family is from the USA and we will visit them this summer. I have been told that they don't understand UK English wich strikes me as odd since I as a dutchie understand both. How its possible a native speaker from USA does not understand a word I am saying beats me...Are your family in law country bumpkins?
What an awesome topic! For some reason my English is considered good enough to get mistaken for a native speaker. In written word I still make a lot of mistakes but thats more grammarwise, and loads of native speakers seem to have difficulties with that as well. But when I speak they hardly hear I am from The Netherlands. (I don't speak Dinglish ghehe). The only funny thing is that somehow I have diffrent sorts of accents wich makes it sound like I moved around a lot. (northern Irish mixed with Scottish and a touch of Cornish).
Now a new challenge faces me, I have to learn American. My boyfriends family is from the USA and we will visit them this summer. I have been told that they don't understand UK English wich strikes me as odd since I as a dutchie understand both. How its possible a native speaker from USA does not understand a word I am saying beats me...Are your family in law country bumpkins?
dinsdag 11 maart 2014 om 22:35
dinsdag 11 maart 2014 om 22:37
Scamp thanks for your well wishes IC is doing fine funnily enough he had an operation on his shoulder too
Whats wrong with your shoulder?
Know what you mean with the 50 ies hospital , never been admitted myself ( well had a baby here and the care could not have been better) but relatives have and its been fine. IC ' s operation was private through work.
UC chick I've not read this thread properly but thanks for telling again . BTW wonder wander you knew what I meant though
Whats wrong with your shoulder?
Know what you mean with the 50 ies hospital , never been admitted myself ( well had a baby here and the care could not have been better) but relatives have and its been fine. IC ' s operation was private through work.
UC chick I've not read this thread properly but thanks for telling again . BTW wonder wander you knew what I meant though
dinsdag 11 maart 2014 om 22:44
quote:UCchick1990 schreef op 11 maart 2014 @ 21:14:
I found it more difficult than expected. I moved in with my boyfriend, to a new country, and started my first full times job. A lot of changes at once! It took me a while to get fully settled in. Ironically, the moment I cried loudest was when they didn't have the pill I was on in the Netherlands, I had to change brands and man, did those big bad spots I had during puberty reappear!
Now, I can say I am settled in, though I still want to move back to the Netherlands in due course. I keep in touch within my parents over whatsapp, google chat and phone (I have 50 international minutes within my contract), and see them on average once a month when either I go to the Netherlands or they come over. I still see a lot of my Dutch friends through my hobby, for which I attend international competitions, and the others I see every couple od months into the Netherlands or contact using whatsapp. And every once in a while I send postcards!
Dear Uchick
Great to hear you are settling in. My experience is that when you remain in the UK and have children with your boyfriend/husband your life will change more towards a UK life, and not a Dutch life.
E.g. your children will attend a British school and will become used to UK traditions such as Christmas rather than Sinterklaas, Bonfire night, etc. etc. This is not a bad/good thing just something to bear in mind. They also become essentially British and although they sympathise and enjoy Dutch traditions, they will alway come 2nd place.
If somebody has different experiences than me, I apologise and would love to hear about it.
Good luck.
I found it more difficult than expected. I moved in with my boyfriend, to a new country, and started my first full times job. A lot of changes at once! It took me a while to get fully settled in. Ironically, the moment I cried loudest was when they didn't have the pill I was on in the Netherlands, I had to change brands and man, did those big bad spots I had during puberty reappear!
Now, I can say I am settled in, though I still want to move back to the Netherlands in due course. I keep in touch within my parents over whatsapp, google chat and phone (I have 50 international minutes within my contract), and see them on average once a month when either I go to the Netherlands or they come over. I still see a lot of my Dutch friends through my hobby, for which I attend international competitions, and the others I see every couple od months into the Netherlands or contact using whatsapp. And every once in a while I send postcards!
Dear Uchick
Great to hear you are settling in. My experience is that when you remain in the UK and have children with your boyfriend/husband your life will change more towards a UK life, and not a Dutch life.
E.g. your children will attend a British school and will become used to UK traditions such as Christmas rather than Sinterklaas, Bonfire night, etc. etc. This is not a bad/good thing just something to bear in mind. They also become essentially British and although they sympathise and enjoy Dutch traditions, they will alway come 2nd place.
If somebody has different experiences than me, I apologise and would love to hear about it.
Good luck.
woensdag 12 maart 2014 om 00:07
Oh yeah the hospital, I wanted to come back to that one.
So, I'm waiting for my haptonomy class the other day in the hospital where I will give birth. And I have to pee. No biggie, you would think, it's a hospital. I find the restroom and the state of it is, well, to put it politely untaken care of. I enter toilet number one. The picture on the door indicates that this is the toilet for ladies. The light doesn't work, it doesn't look very clean and there is no toilet paper. Toilet two, I skip for the moment as it is meant for the men. Toilet number three is for the disabled. Also here I don't find any toilet paper. I turn back to toilet number two, surprise surprise, exactly, no toilet paper. I decide to go back to the waiting room where there is a sink and paper hand towels and get some of those. I say to myself not to worry yet, as our class is an evening class, and this part of the hospital is practically abandoned at this hour. Until the same story repeats itself a week later.
Given it's not the department where I will give birth, and I only hear good stories about that, I try to remain calm, because if you can't even find a clean, hygienic toilet in a hospital, where can you?
So, I'm waiting for my haptonomy class the other day in the hospital where I will give birth. And I have to pee. No biggie, you would think, it's a hospital. I find the restroom and the state of it is, well, to put it politely untaken care of. I enter toilet number one. The picture on the door indicates that this is the toilet for ladies. The light doesn't work, it doesn't look very clean and there is no toilet paper. Toilet two, I skip for the moment as it is meant for the men. Toilet number three is for the disabled. Also here I don't find any toilet paper. I turn back to toilet number two, surprise surprise, exactly, no toilet paper. I decide to go back to the waiting room where there is a sink and paper hand towels and get some of those. I say to myself not to worry yet, as our class is an evening class, and this part of the hospital is practically abandoned at this hour. Until the same story repeats itself a week later.
Given it's not the department where I will give birth, and I only hear good stories about that, I try to remain calm, because if you can't even find a clean, hygienic toilet in a hospital, where can you?
woensdag 12 maart 2014 om 00:14
Oh and about feeling homesick.
I don't really. Since I have left the Netherlands 8 years ago.
I do think that it helps that I always moved because of work, so I always had something to do right away, and new colleagues who could introduce me to their friends etc.
I stay in touch with my family true FaceTime, Skype and what's app. Mostly what's app though, I definitely don't speak with my family every day, or even every week. We are just not used to that. We also didn't when I was still living in the Netherlands. But it's all good
I don't really. Since I have left the Netherlands 8 years ago.
I do think that it helps that I always moved because of work, so I always had something to do right away, and new colleagues who could introduce me to their friends etc.
I stay in touch with my family true FaceTime, Skype and what's app. Mostly what's app though, I definitely don't speak with my family every day, or even every week. We are just not used to that. We also didn't when I was still living in the Netherlands. But it's all good
woensdag 12 maart 2014 om 07:27
Scamp, I speak the language somewhat. I'm definitely nowhere near fluent. But then again, I don't use Finnish at work and my ex refused to speak Finnish with me at home.
I was in the UK a couple of weeks ago. Hadn't been there in years. First thing I bought when I got there: Horlicks. And Cheesy Wotsits. What kind of typically English products can you guys not do without?
I was in the UK a couple of weeks ago. Hadn't been there in years. First thing I bought when I got there: Horlicks. And Cheesy Wotsits. What kind of typically English products can you guys not do without?
woensdag 12 maart 2014 om 10:16
quote:hans66 schreef op 11 maart 2014 @ 21:38:
Somehow I trust English books more than Dutch books. Possibly because most scientific articles are written in English. In case of Ukrainian, I failed to find a Dutch book about it, so I bought an English book.
But I do think that as a language Dutch is not inferior to English.It's funny, I don't consider Dutch inferior but some things just sound/read better in English. I prefer reading English books over the translantions and in the games I was involved in online we also did a lot of roleplaying. The moment I met a fellow Dutchie in there and tried to do the same in my native language it was just.. not cutting it. My boyfriend feels the same so we agreed recently that English is the only official language accepted during bedroom gymnastics
Somehow I trust English books more than Dutch books. Possibly because most scientific articles are written in English. In case of Ukrainian, I failed to find a Dutch book about it, so I bought an English book.
But I do think that as a language Dutch is not inferior to English.It's funny, I don't consider Dutch inferior but some things just sound/read better in English. I prefer reading English books over the translantions and in the games I was involved in online we also did a lot of roleplaying. The moment I met a fellow Dutchie in there and tried to do the same in my native language it was just.. not cutting it. My boyfriend feels the same so we agreed recently that English is the only official language accepted during bedroom gymnastics
woensdag 12 maart 2014 om 10:27
woensdag 12 maart 2014 om 10:50
Tejita, I've got a shoulder impingement and they want to scrape some bone off of (hopefully) both my shoulders, to fix that.
The hospital here is coloured mint green and blue with wallpaper with 80's flowers on in the same colours
Haha my mom in law (she is 85) was shocked that her sister (93) is on a mixed ward. Men and women together!!????
Elfje, that's absolutely appalling!
RozeHanddoek, Are you moving because of a break up? Wouldn't you want to stay in Finland?
My mom, still, asks me every time I talk to her, when I'm coming home and I always tell her that I am home.
I wouldn't go back to Holland or another country, even if something happens here.
Rico, sorry
Get well soon!
The weather is great here too.
We're going to our allotment this afternoon for some more digging.
We did our garden yesterday.
Taking advantage of the sun.
The hospital here is coloured mint green and blue with wallpaper with 80's flowers on in the same colours
Haha my mom in law (she is 85) was shocked that her sister (93) is on a mixed ward. Men and women together!!????
Elfje, that's absolutely appalling!
RozeHanddoek, Are you moving because of a break up? Wouldn't you want to stay in Finland?
My mom, still, asks me every time I talk to her, when I'm coming home and I always tell her that I am home.
I wouldn't go back to Holland or another country, even if something happens here.
Rico, sorry
Get well soon!
The weather is great here too.
We're going to our allotment this afternoon for some more digging.
We did our garden yesterday.
Taking advantage of the sun.
woensdag 12 maart 2014 om 11:04
Morning girls!
Absolutely fabulous weather in "De Achterhoek" also. My mum is visiting today so we probably work a bit in the garden. That will be one of the things I'm going to miss: popping over to friends and family won't be that easy anymore.
Scamp, I hope they can fix your shoulder(s).
mmmm and my idea about english hospitals is now officially confirmed . What about the dentists ?
Absolutely fabulous weather in "De Achterhoek" also. My mum is visiting today so we probably work a bit in the garden. That will be one of the things I'm going to miss: popping over to friends and family won't be that easy anymore.
Scamp, I hope they can fix your shoulder(s).
mmmm and my idea about english hospitals is now officially confirmed . What about the dentists ?
